91k issue plea to Abbott on NBN

Nick Paine aiming to get more than 150,000 signatures on his online petition

Nearly 92,000 people have issued a plea to prime minister elect Tony Abbott to continue the National Broadband Network (NBN) with a fibre-to-the-home plan, instead of the Coalition’s proposed fibre-to-the-node plan.

In April this year the Coalition announced its broadband policy, with 71 per cent of Australia to get fibre-to-the-node (FFTN); 22 per cent to get fibre-to-the-premise (FTTP); 4 per cent to get fixed wireless; and 3 per cent to get satellite.

This compares to Labor’s plan for 93 per cent of Australia to get the NBN via FTTP, with the rest to be serviced by satellite or fixed wireless.

The petition, which is being run through the change.org website, has been running for several days and now has more than 91,000 signatures.

The petition organiser, Nick Paine, is aiming for a target of more than 250,000 signatures. He is urging people to sign petition as well as write to Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull to ask them to reconsider their proposal for the NBN.

“Having lived abroad for several years I have witnessed first-hand how far behind Australia is in this respective infrastructure. Your party’s claim to the success of FTTN implementation in other countries such as the UK/USA are irrelevant with said nations already seeking options to move on from this out-dated technology,” Paine writes in his petition.

“So why position Australia and our future generations behind the rest of the world’s leading nations with a technology that they themselves are already decommissioning?”

The Coalition expects its NBN will be completed in 2019 at a capital expenditure cost of $20.4 billion, requiring $29.5 billion in funding.

This compares to Labor’s NBN which would have cost $37.4 billion in capital.

“[These] ‘savings’ figures do not factor in the cost of upgrading the FTTN network again when the time comes just a few quick decades down the road,” Paine.

“These upgrade costs on top of your $30 billion estimated cost, combined with inflation rates will result in a budget blowout which will well exceed that of the Labor party’s existing NBN proposal.”

Paine has addressed his petition to Abbott, Turnbull, the Liberal Party and the Senate.

Tags Fibre-to-the-Premise (FTTP)Tony AbbottMalcolm TurnbullNational Broadband Network (NBN)fibre-to-the-node (FTTN)




Now it's at 135k supporters, hopefully Tony Abbott and the parliment see this and reconsider their plan.

Gordon Drennan


135,000 = 0.6% of the population



There were many errors in the rationale of this petition, hence even though I strongly support the (former) NBN plan, as an IT professional I couldn't sign it.



Care to explain for the rest of us non-IT professionals, Frank?



well, that explain how many Labor supporter we got out there. I bet most of them do not even know what they are asking for. with Technology keep improving fibre to nod will not be a snail mail pace like what Labor used to tell the people. Just recently Telstra announced they found a technology to boost speed to 40mb/s on their copper network, and thats without any optic fibre in it!



What would Malcolm Turnbull care. His electorate has cable running everywhere, past every house/dwelling most likely, so his constituents will get 1Gbs no problem. He will never ever have to face the backlash of people that matter to him. If he gets this petition he will go "sorry you poor bas****s you should have been more wealthy then you would be fine". I wish the communications minister was from Western Sydney or Wollongong or Newcastle. Or just someone that cared.



Hey D. That technology was with new copper cable run over a very short distance and with limited users



To put the speeds proposed into perspective 1000Mbit/second (ftth) has the capability of over-filling your laptop's hard drive (500GB) in easily in a little more than an hour, or streaming more than 40 separate 1080p movies (blu-ray quality) at the same time, I can't think of a single person that needs that much data that quickly for any reason, except for maybe tony stark...



The is a limit to the speed of a copper wire regardless of the current or future technolgy due basically to the impurities found in copper and in using electic to transfer data.
While in using optical fibre, which uses light, light pulses. There are also less impurities in glass. Using current technolgy to boost copper when and if used in optical fibre will in that much faster in optical fibre then copper.

Here is a website that explains the difference between copper and fibre. It may be a bit nerdy.

So in the end, the Libs will save some 8 billion dollars for a technology that is being discarded by the advance countries like Korean, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia.

Spending some 30 billion on old technology and placing Australia behind and allowing Telstra to again be a monoploy and us the consumers without a choice

But the people of australia have voted, we like to live in the past, and not move into the future.

What future will there be for the future australia? Our children to live in old technology while the rest of the world moves on, what future will australia have?

While our leaders embrace the idea of monopolies!!!!!



Maybe so Scotty, but with the huge technical leaps and advances every year, we should be planning speeds for the future not the now!



The problem with most people is that are simply looking at the now. What speeds were we all running 10 years ago, what speeds will we need in another 10 years?
It's pure ignorance to claim that the 25Mb FTTN will provide is going to be enough for future generations. It's not just about browsing the web, it's also how it will assist with school, science, work etc.
There was an article I read the other day (sorry can't recall the source so ignore it if you will) but it was from a research scientist who claimed their required bandwidth increases by roughly 40% each year. They stated they will need a 1Gb connection within 5 - 10 years.
Even if we get FTTN in the next 3 years we will still need to upgrade it and spend more than the current NBN plan. This is coming from someone who already has FTTH so it's not just about what I want.

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