Productivity Commission report could get Opposition to back NBN: Turnbull

Shadow communications minister, Malcolm Turnbull, says Commision report into National Broadband Network could be "incredibly persuasive"

The National Broadband Network (NBN) could get the Opposition's approval if a Productivity Commission study into the $43 billion project came back with a positive report, shadow communications minister, Malcolm Turnbull has said.

“… If the Productivity Commission were to report on the NBN as they should, and if they were to give it a big tick from a cost-benefit point of view, it would be incredibly persuasive,” Turnbull said speaking on Network Ten television on Sunday.

“I think it would obviously change a lot of people's perceptions. It would have a huge impact but nobody in their right mind gives a blank cheque to anyone, even someone as a well resourced as [chairman] Gary Banks and the Productivity Commission.”

The news follows mixed messages from Turnbull last week which suggested that the Opposition would not immediately seek to block Labor’s Telstra separation bill which would enable a speedy transition of the telco’s assets to the NBN Co.

“Telstra is committed now to structural separation, and I think it would be in the interests of competition generally, and indeed in the interests of shareholders if there was an effective separation, but it would have to be on terms that gave security, in terms of pricing, to that separated network company," he said.

As reported by Computerworld Australia, Turnbull claimed the Coalition had not significantly changed its policy position on separating Telstra, despite the endorsement of Labor’s bill.

“If you are asking the question: Is it Coalition policy to be vehemently opposed to structural separation, that’s not our policy,” he said. “We have never been vehemently opposed to structural separation. We have been opposed to holding a gun to Telstra’s head and forcing them to do it against their will.”

Turnbull’s comments on Sunday were quickly rebuffed by communications minister, Stephen Conroy, who claimed a Productivity Commission study into the NBN would be a “waste of money.”

“They've been seeking to delay the rollout for months and months and months,” Conroy said on ABC television. “They've refused to allow debate in the Senate. They said we had to release the ACCC report, we had to release the McKinsey's report, we have to provide them all this information.”

Despite this, Conroy said an official business case for the NBN would be shortly released follow its review by the board of the NBN Co.

“We'll consider [the business case] over the next week or two… but I would expect some fairly major information to be available about the cost, the pricing, the rates of return, all of that sort of information I believe will be very public very shortly,” Conroy said.

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1

Simon

Mon 25/10/2010 - 13:03

Its about time the Liberals gave up and allowed the government to perform its job in rolling out the NBN Co i.e. do not block reasonable legisaltion put forward.

To Mr Turnbull - the US is not leading the world in broadband so why look to them as an example. Their economy has become a basket case. The Productivity Commision will just waste resources and not uncover anything that hasn't already been discussed or reported.

If Labor fail to achieve anything in the next 2-3 years it will be up to the Australian public to decide whether to give them another 3 years.

The public gave the Labor party the mandate to move forward with the NBN Co and FTTH rollout. Thats democracy and that what people want now and not in 10 yrs time.

The Liberals had the opportunity for many years to reform the Telecommunications sector and they failed.

Senators Cooney, Minchin, etc achieved nothing.

Telstra strangled competition and kept charging high prices and delivering poor service.

Lets get on with building the broadband network Australia deserves today.

I urge all ICT professionals to back the NBN Co and go against any Liberal attempt to delay or block its implementation.

The multiplier effect to the ICT sector and the Aust economy is huge and will stimulate employment, innovation, efficiency, productivity. Business and society will benefit in so many ways.

The public should decide at the next election if Labor and NBN Co in its present form is to continue or not.

2

John Walker

Mon 25/10/2010 - 14:23

The internet filter and cost are the main reasons why mainstream Australia is opposed to the NBN, who knows what will be censored from general view? And how dare a democratic elected government enforce this?

3

raym

Mon 25/10/2010 - 15:35

@ 1 Simon, first read the article, then given your DNA, attempt to understand, that Turnbull just said, do this we pass! see how it works dear boy!

And if possible, try and remove yourself from your DNA and write something else, you are a s boring as Batsh1t, this is the fourth posting of the same garbage.

As advised earlier dear boy! keep it simple, it so suits you!

4

Simon

Mon 25/10/2010 - 17:10

@3 Raymond - u don't need to read my posts if you don't like the content. I am responding to Turnbull's actions.

Turnbull is only playing politics and will never achieve anything with broadband. He will stall and make a meal out of any report pointing to any negatives to suck in a gullible public who don't understand the NBN benefits to business or to society in general.

If you are an ICT professional then you should back the NBN full stop.

If you're not, which I gather you're not, you should move onto the mainstream web sites where all the other politicians spin.

I am proudly in favour of the NBN and will support it wholeheartedly.

The Liberals never achieved anything with telecommunications, leaving up to Telstra and others. What did it achieve - nothing!!!

We are lagging behind the leading countries in the world in broadband speeds. That is fact.

The NBN Co will be producing a business case and that's where it should end in satisfying the knockers.

5

Almost Si

Mon 25/10/2010 - 18:00

@4 99% correct Simon.

The Liberals never achieved anything.

6

blessed rooster

Mon 25/10/2010 - 19:36

Praise thy lord. Ray o’ sunshine, thine saintly rooster and most knowledgeable prophet, since sister pauline hanson, has returned to enlighten thine heathens of thine evil white elephant. Oh Methuselah, thy world is blessed to have a mighty cock like you, with your endless tales of bull from rabbit.

7

D Newman

Mon 25/10/2010 - 22:49

I am amazed to be honest that people are falling for the good cop, bad cop BS that Turnbulls being forced to play, while the Liberals have their present leader they will be no compromise or acceptance of anyone elses ideas or plans, unless it means that Abbott gets to feels vindicated in some bizzare way.

You cant have the leader and key members of the leadership circle saying, "We will destroy the NBN", and then have someone float in (Turnbull) claiming that everyone in the Liberal party will suddenly change their mind if highly subjective data based on possibilities is made public on a national infrastructure project.

Now if that should be released to the public is a different conversation, and not the point i,m making, the point is Turnbull pull the F'ing other one, its got bleeding bells on.

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raym

Tue 26/10/2010 - 08:39

@ 7 are you actually supporting waste! what on earth could possible be wrong with having a full Productivity Report! unless there is something to hide!

All are missing the point, this whole issue is being built with borrowed money repaid by taxpayers, are not the owner of the funds entitled to have explained...........what are you doing! with my money!

Everybody wants broadband! not speed! services, not hype, at least give the punters some idea what and how you are going build and create for the money!

Because at the moment, NBN are still testing what fibre to use, patch to the premise has not been worked out, the Law has not been settled, the policy has not been finalised, and to this moment in time, no legislation has been put before the parliament!

All we get here are selfish nerds, who would not know a business case if it bit them on the behind!

Thats why, Turnbull sounds strage to them, all he is doing is putting hard commercial principle to this whole fiasco.

Keep this in mind, we are now into the fourth year and F... All has come out of NBN Co.

And not to labor a point, 10% take up............remember previous discussions!

Or are you the sole custodian of cheap shots!

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raym

Tue 26/10/2010 - 08:46

@ 4 A challenge, something simple for you to back up your drivel.

Name five business benefits, the costings, and returns to general commerce,what will these benefits replace,what service and wealth will they produce.

Cast off your natural DNA, Simon, cut loose and show us all your magnificent business brain and how you intend the NBN will make the world a better place, and cure cancer while you are at it!

My dear boy! over to you, try and come back soon and not have somebody else post on your behalf! like before!

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raym

Tue 26/10/2010 - 11:22

@ 4 Simon my simple friend, a little help for your essay challenge above.

NBN is so needed because? a hint the fine people of the Great Isle of Tassie were offered free NBN.........how many have taken it up?

18 Simon! or are you saying only the selfish nerds live on the mainland?

Now don't let the dog eat the homework! everybody is waiting for your exercise to be handed in! there's a good boy!

11

Simon

Tue 26/10/2010 - 13:23

@10
Some of the benefits will be in areas like health, education, improved service delivery across business and government, improved transportation services, business 2 business communication, etc

Wait for NBN Co business case to be released and then read it to your hearts content.....

The benefits to acrrue in Health with e-health on its own will return more than the NBN cost over a 10 year period. There is detailed benefits costing on this subject but cannot be released publicly by state governments.

One day maybe soon by the sounds of it, when you're old and grey and public and private hospitals stuff you around while you're suffering you may appreciate the benefits that e-health will provide!

If the Liberals could offer an alternative rather than the crap they offered at the last election then ICT professionals may listen and support them. Otherwise what the NBN Co have on the table is what will bring this country into the 21st century.

12

raym

Tue 26/10/2010 - 15:30

@ 11 Are you serious! that is an explanation! what you have just stated is what you think will happen, I asked you for a business case! Obviously way beyond your capacity.
Allow me to inform you about health! NO doctor will treat and prescribe using NBN, reason! ALL doctors practice only if they have the appropriate insurance, ALL insurance companies have stated they will not cover any form of consultation via the internet!
So Simon, keep it simple, please exlain some detail behind you knoledge of how the NBN application relating to health will work! Please explain in dollar terms the 10 year health return you mentioned.
Please also explain your statement of improved transport services, give us a few lines on how that application will work.

13

Too late

Tue 26/10/2010 - 15:33

@ 11. Our exalted rooster, ray o sunshine is already old and grey. Although endlessly knowledgeable in word of rabbit and particularly bull, our mighty cock is not know as methuselah for nothing, Simon.

14

Simon

Wed 27/10/2010 - 14:39

@12 Moron

As I said if you can read - the NBN Co will be releasing its business case shortly.

If looks like the case that the Productivity Commission perform a full cost benefit analysis then I'm sure even that won't satisfy you since you are plainly a minority knocker who understands stuff all...

you're probably an old techo hack with no experience/knowledge/skills in large projects or ICT or infrastructure

crawl back in your hole moron....

15

Even tho tru not nice

Wed 27/10/2010 - 19:25

Simon I must take you to task. Although I know he’s a moron, you know he’s a moron and everyone everywhere, apart from the moron himself, knows he’s a moron, it’s not very nice to call even this moron a moron.

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raym

Thu 28/10/2010 - 13:37

@14 you have no idea! you cannot ever understand the most basic's of business, and if you are in IT projects, god help the outcome....you have outstanding DNA my simple friend Simon.

17

Not nice

Thu 28/10/2010 - 21:23

@16, I must now take you to task too. Although I know you are a moron, Simon knows you are a moron and everyone except you, you moron, know you are a moron, I take you to task for being a moron, moron.

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