NBN wholesale pricing still up in the air

NBN Pricing up in the air........never! that fab Mr Quigley would have well and truly completed financial modelling, and have a rock solid $48 billion business plan well in place.........wouldn't he?.......anybody!

National Broadband is like the ABC. Everyone can use it (including telephony) and each additional user adds nothing to the cost of providing the service. Being free to users (RSPs) maximises the public good flowing from the existence of a ubiquitous network by maximising services rather than duplicating infrastructure and means the NBN should stay in public ownership.

The nation can often benefit more than the person who actually uses the NBN directly, by for example, reducing the need for transport and other infrastructure. So instead of banging on about the number of hospitals which could be built with the money, think about the resources which may not be needed with ubiquitous high quality communications.

If we were thinking of starting the ABC today would we ever get past the debates we are thrashing about with now?

The copper network has been written down to nothing. Enterprises usually replace written down equipment, with the current model. When the horse dies, you replace him with a B double.

Raymond, I hear from T that your not bad at aritmet err arhtamit ohh ehm maths, I could really do with a hand.

@#1 Raymond!

Can’t you read? Can’t you comprhend? Are you too biased to want to know the truth? Yes, all of the previous, eh Ray, illiterate fool?

Yesterday, at another CW thread and after that big mouth of yours had done OT, you were immediately supplied with the very info you had requested. Here -

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/359224/nbn_missing_from_alp_costings/

After that, you and that mouth, suddenly, oddly but typically disappeared! That info suggested the NBN wasn’t on the back of an envelope as you wrongly said and certainly, you couldn’t prove. It also said the NBN would only end up costing $26B (maybe less with the Telstra deal)..BTW, it’s never been $48B, more lies, fool!

But like the pitiful Liberal dunce/puppet you are, here you were at another CW thread only some 12 hours later, pretending the info doesn’t exist and lying about the very same disproved BS…

So since your ignorance has been unsuccessful, I'll look forward for the typical, desperate attempt to discredit the info, ready… here it comes!

Anyway, where’s your information to disprove me and back any of the mindless lunacy you spew forth? Well...!

Are you listening idiot? I just whistled…be here soon!

@8 Newman, we in the racing game call that the early Crow!

I have seen horses ridden to perfection and get beaten, I have had horses lead by ten lengths and just get beaten! be careful you have not gone off too early, who knows Natalie from Media Staff may be watching you? and you may not be back!

And as for your boyfriend, he is only happy because Bob will allow gay marriages, put the ring away ladies, you are not there yet.
And Newman, or whatever your real name is! iinet will not neccessarilly benefit from what ever form of NBN under a god forbid gov ends up being.

So back to your boyfriend, he cannot get over no fin modelling, or business plan, still irks him, do you have champers in iinet Perth, maybe you could buy some from the winnings if you had the guts to bet, perhaps you didn't you are married for twelve years, less for manslaughter!
How are you going to explain to the good wife and your work colleagues at iinet the "boyfriend"

Be very careful of Natalie, you are being watched!
Fight is not over whatever you are called from iinet, now is the time when you punch very hard to make it count, as I said long ago...do to them before they do it to you!

@8, I was just thinking Newman or what ever your name is, because that is not your real name, therefore you are also more than likely telling lies about working at iinet as well, yet you and your boyfriend come on here and act like the Pope and mother Therese.

Why don't you tell us your real name, and the real place you work!
Or perhaps you are Bob from the choir?
perhaps you are just a cheap contractor!
Tell us your real christian name at least, bet you haven't got the guts!
OR
Have you twigged that Natalie is watching!
Come on make my life tell us your name!

@ 12 Well sh.. for brains or should I say Crayfish, I can promise you one thing your boyfriend Newman or whatever his real name is from iinet will not answer the question of his real name........never way too gutless....to the point he may never appear again!
Lets see who has gone off too early!

Oh my god, @11 how do you have the hairy ones to preach about names, you use so many, you even talk to yourself in the most reach around manner, and you think that fools people here, dear lord .

My name is up there for all to see, it is my real name and what I do is also not hidden but very public, but placing the shoe firmly on the other foot, you should state the company you work for and surname, oh but misdirection to hide the truth is all part of the agenda for you, question is, who is paying the piper?

DN... notice that when Raymond Lovelace here, is disproved, rather than being a man and accepting he goes the aggressive bluff and bluster and tries to cloud the issue with even weirder BS.

Last time it was threats of violence (LOL - he will bash us with his cheap and horribly noticeable toupee and walking stick), this time veiled threats in relation to your employment and wanting names...

Faul, or was that foul .. no fowl... as in GOOSE!

lol im a fraud? kettle pot black raymond, I have nothing to hide and never have so your little trantrum garners no rise from me, and how you bluster when backed into a corner with your own lies.......
Oh M Mouse and D Duck say hi from your office.

Hello everyone can i ask a question please ?
I was looking up how much the NBN may cost us to use as we are retired and on the pension, and we found this article.
In this article does the $30 a month wholesale charge mean that is just the connection to the new network ? So does that mean the Internet Supply Provider and phone bills are extra charges on top of that ?
Today we pay $49 for quite good internet and the phone as Telstra bundle, then we get a rebate so its about $29 or so.
Its a very good service but expensive and we need the phone and the internet for our children to call or email.
We were hoping the TV cable shows could be thru the NBN like they said and the whole thing would be less than $25 a month. Our budget is about $25 a month in total after the rebate as we are on a fixed income.
Also another question - would there be a pensioner rebate ?

LOL @22 "the media office" oh Raymond you are without a doubt a child in a big mans world, media office oh please.

Try Human resources department dummy, what the heck would the media office know, oh wait you think I,m part of the PR team, oh lol no seriously LOL.....Thats why I do shadow advertising by pretending to be a happy customer.

OH WAIT I dont, im upfront about my employer so to allow people to judge if i,m biased in a reply, unlike you who believes he has a yacht and runs a large company, strange that someone with those credentials wouldnt have the first darn clue on how to track someone in another company, and know the reply you would get if you did.

After I have told you repeated my work history and areas of work, you come up with Media office, you are truely clueless in the struture of a company and company (HR) rules, you no more run a company than a fry cook runs McDonalds.

LOL...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fled the other thread and here now...

Poor sorry, idiot...! You can run but you can't hide.

You are being played for the fool and playing your part (as the obvious fool you are) perfectly.

Tell us again about your yacht, racehorse, billions and whatever else you can make up idiot?

Hook baited and thrown in front of said, unstable knob A G A I N...

Well ga ga ga , you know you must? LOL...!!!