Internode readies high quota broadband plans

Hackett indicates "substantial" response to broadband quota battle

Internode’s managing director, Simon Hackett, has acknowledged that the service provider will provide “substantial” upgrades to its broadband plans in response to the recent influx of competitive plans with high monthly data quotas, but said it would be a few weeks until anything is announced.

“Despite having only just revised its plans a few weeks ago, Internode will indeed respond commercially to various significant changes in the marketplace since then,” Hackett told users of the Whirlpool discussion forum this week, settling heated discussion regarding the plans.

“We're currently waiting on some answers to important and relevant questions from various suppliers over the next few weeks, before we can fully determine and release our next plan revisions.”

Hackett said the plans could be offered once the provider resolves pricing agreements with Telstra Wholesale, over whose equipment Internode currently resells ADSL2+ in areas it has not installed its own DSLAMs.

The service provider won’t discuss specifics of the potential plans before they are released in order to avoid incorrect speculation or upset customers, according to Hackett.

Internode currently offers a maximum quota of 240 gigabytes per month, falling shy of the one terabyte and more plans announced in quick succession last week by iiNet, iPrimus and TPG respectively. iPrimus currently offers the highest quota plan, with 1100GB of total monthly data.

Though announced, the plans are unlikely to see significant uptake and transitions for a week or two, with TPG switching on its plans at the beginning of next month. Most of the new plans will also count upload and download data toward the quota.

iiNet, which launched the first salvo in the renewed competitive battle, will likely use the terabyte plans to replace the unlimited plans offered by former competitor, AAPT, which it purchased this month from Telecom NZ for $60 million. The telco’s chief executive, Michael Malone, told Computerworld Australia that unlimited was simply too costly to maintain for its user base and that it would be the first thing cut once AAPT users are transitioned to iiNet’s network.

“On AAPT’s cost base they lost money [on the unlimited plan]. iiNet’s cost base is a lot less than AAPT’s and they are still drastically loss-making,” he said.

Malone claimed the movement by some local ISPs to unlimited plans was an aberration as the global trend was seeing movement from unlimited plans back to capped plans.

“When you have an unlimited download environment the consumer increases their usage then the content owner and network owner bitch at each other over who is going to cover the cost of that. We don’t have that issue in Australia as the cost of incremental traffic is borne by the consumer who gets the most utility from it.”

Hackett moved to calm increasingly heated discussion in the Whirlpool thread over the speculated plans.

“Unless your personal circumstances have changed between yesterday and today such that you were happy yesterday but today you can't live without 1000GB's [sic] of downloads per month, then it seems to me that you could give Internode the benefit of the doubt for the same month or two that it took iiNet to respond to market shifts made by Internode and others,” he said.

The failure to produce the new plans is also likely to put pressure on Internode to revive its public image following a statement by Malone that the service provider wasn’t a “meaningful player” in the market. Malone later defended his comments as a discussion of “consolidation and size”, while Hackett said he had not taken offence to the statement.

However, iPrimus chief executive, Ravi Bhatia, wasn’t as impressed with the comment.

“Michael had a rush of blood to his head,” he said. “He’s like a batsman out there taking a wild swing at a delivery.

“Normally he’s a pretty balanced person but he was having an off day.”

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1

Nat

Tue 24/08/2010 - 23:08

Not intertested in Terabyte plans.
I'd be happy with a better deal on low end ADSL2+ plans.
I don't download much (10 - 15Gb/mth), but when I do I want it fast.

I hope Internode can get a better deal out of Telstra Wholesale as I'm stuck on a Telstra only exchange.

2

Senzan

Wed 25/08/2010 - 08:25

@Nat

"I hope Internode can get a better deal out of Telstra Wholesale as I'm stuck on a Telstra only exchange."

That's a good thing. Telstras competitors networks are nowhere as reliable. Optus' network in particular is plagued with congestion and backhaul issues. While people do pay a premium on the Telstra network the service provided is top-notch. I can't wait for the new plans and will be churning to node asap.

3

marak

Wed 25/08/2010 - 09:01

“....t the consumer increases their usage then the content owner and network owner bitch at each other over who is going to cover the cost of that. "

WHAT?

What a load of crap - if the content owner is ever talking to your isp because of their content size, the worlds going to collapse :P It doesnt happen.

Malone claimed the movement by some local ISPs to unlimited plans was an aberration as the global trend was seeing movement from unlimited plans back to capped plans.

Malones full of sh&%- they TRIED it in the US, where it was shot down thoroughly. Interesting spin Malone.

Im all for bigger data plan, me and my fiancee are both high-bandwidth users. ATM i run two intenet connections to my house just to keep up with the amount of content use we have(we also both work in IT and routenly transfer multi-gig files for work - which is a nightmare on a lot of connections).

Hopefully after they get off this stupid ''lets-meter-everything'' kick, we can start having some competition around the internet speed.

4

Lindsay

Wed 25/08/2010 - 10:05

@Senzan

"That's a good thing. Telstras [sic] competitors [sic] networks are nowhere [near] as reliable."

I guess you've never used Internode then.

5

Blake

Wed 25/08/2010 - 12:06

Yep, give us larger plans. The bottom line isnt going to change for lowbie plans when the access price stays the same - so bad luck Nat.

Oh and regarding the capped plans that are emerging in the US, they are for 3G/mobile networks, which makes sense - not for home wired connections (which doesn't make sense).

6

Camm

Wed 25/08/2010 - 14:32

Instead the US has moves towards net tiering - but they do have the advantage of all their content being hosted basically on the US. IMO, if were going to get decent rate plans, the NBN's also going to have to factor a few cables over to the US to decrease international backhaul costs

7

D Newman

Wed 25/08/2010 - 15:09

@camm that is factored in, The Guam pipe I know is being expaned, and has been recently as well hence the allocations being increased, that we have seen trickling down to ISP plans

8

mark

Wed 25/08/2010 - 16:59

u know inter node has had an unlimited plan for a while now, $309 under the business tab...

9

petey

Wed 25/08/2010 - 17:42

I just hope they bring back for 50gb for $50 on adsl2+ and don't block regional users from using it.

10

David

Wed 25/08/2010 - 19:48

I have been with Internode since 2000 (10 Years)

and have always Found them to be _Good_

But I am Paying $49.95 for 50 ADSL One 1.5 Connect

That Do not offer this plan Now for People Off there own Network

I have had Telstra Offering Me $49.95 for 50 ADSL Two

Internode, Make me a ADSL Two Offer thats Not Double the Price..

11

shane

Thu 26/08/2010 - 21:00

I cannot see how Iinet overall would be loosing on the AAPT unlimited plans, especially whist they are offering rediclious new download limits on their new higher ended plans.

I am quiet sure most people who are on unlimited plans would not download 1tg.

These new plans and the competition could see many isps end up going to the wall.

I am sure that with these plans the isps could be encouraging people to breach copy right. I if many things that used to be called free content will suddenly become not free and be counted.

12

Pharaoh

Thu 26/08/2010 - 23:13

At my connection speed I'd still have 120GB left on a terabyte plan if I was saturating my line 24/7. Bring it on!

13

Raymond

Fri 27/08/2010 - 13:30

@ 7 Newman, are you sure the Guam is being upgraded? or are you refering to the Pacnet and Pacific build?
Just asking!

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