Q&A with Richard Stallman

The man behind the GNU project talks smartphones, freedom and why refugees are a distraction from the real issues.

Richard Stallman

Richard Stallman

Free software is a different beast from gratis software. Free software activist, Richard Stallman, discusses the importance of freedom across all modes of computing. The software developer and political activist is best known for his creation during the early 1980's of the GNU Project, which combined with Linus Torvalds' kernel programming efforts in the early 1990's to form what we today refer to as the Linux operating system.

Stallman also founded the associated Free Software Foundation in the mid-1980's and is the original author of several popular software projects.

Going back to 2005, there was a strong debate in Australia about the potential for individuals and organisations to use the GNU/Linux operating system as a desktop replacement for Microsoft's Windows platform. The debate has gradually died down, although the maturity of the GNU/Linux desktop and its degree of user friendliness has increased.

Does the trend disappoint you, and how could the free software community best seek to reverse it?

Stallman: I have no independent knowledge about this. If you are right, I hope my speaking tour will direct attention back to the question. Freedom for software users is no less important today than it was five years ago.

The definition of free software is that it respects users' freedom. It's free as in freedom — price is not the issue. Specifically, it means that you as user are free to run the program as you wish, study the source code and change it so that the program does what you wish, and to redistribute copies with or without changes. With these freedoms, the users control the software and control their computing.

Without these freedoms, the software controls the users. Don't let that happen to you!

I launched the development of the GNU operating system in 1984 specifically to make it possible to use a computer without letting the software control you. In 1992, the kernel Linux was freed and filled the last gap in GNU. The GNU/Linux system makes it possible to use a computer and have freedom, but in order to realise this benefit, you need to take care to avoid installing non-free programs.

Should the free software community even seek to reverse this trend, or should it instead focus on other angles of attack — such as on the burgeoning smartphone platform?

Smartphones are computers on which users install software. Just as on a PC or server, the user of a smartphone deserves free software. Winning this freedom is our goal, and it applies to all kinds of computers.

The importance of this was reinforced by a report which investigated many gratis apps for the iGroan and Android which found that a third had spyware.

The article characterised these apps as ‘free’, but I presume it meant ‘gratis’. If the programs were ‘free’ software, users would be able to find and remove the spying and other malicious features.

Android's source code is free software, but in many phones the binaries of Android are not free, because the phones are set up to refuse to run modified versions if the user installs them. [This practice is called ‘tivoization’, named after the product that pioneered it.] If the software in Android were under version 3 of the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL), users would be guaranteed the freedom to install their own modified versions.

Even when Android is not tivoized, it needs non-free drivers or firmware to run. As far as I know, no smartphone is made that can be run without proprietary software. None respects its users' freedom.

The shortest path to making it possible to run a smartphone without non-free software is to reverse engineer those non-free drivers or firmware and write free replacements.

You recently posted on your site that you had no love for former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd — "who wanted to impose filtering on the internet". What is your opinion of the internet filtering project, which is still going ahead?

Australians should stop being distracted by the minor issue of refugees that come from Asia, and start focusing on the real threat: Tyrannical government policies that come from Asia.

Censorship is an attack on human rights. Australia already practices Internet censorship: It prohibits links to forbidden sites. Rudd was proposing to make this even worse by blocking access to those sites.

If that plan is rejected, the existing censorship still stands between Australians and liberty.

The government also plans surveillance of Australians' internet use, and is keeping the details secret to "avoid premature debate". Has Australia taken China as its model?

Australians should stop being distracted by the minor issue of refugees that come from Asia, and start focusing on the real threat: Tyrannical government policies that come from Asia.

Australians' freedom of association has been damaged by laws supposedly directed against ‘terrorism’. Governments must not have the power to arbitrarily label a group as ‘terrorist’ and punish people for having a relationship with the group. This power endangers anyone that supports a cause the government might like to ban.

If the state suspects some group of terrorism, it should have to prove that in court before it can take any action against the group and its members. If people are to have legal rights, there must be no punishment without trial.

What do you most like about Australia, and what activities are you planning to undertake while you are here?

What I specifically like about Australia is the presence of parrots. I love to see wild parrots, but I really delight in meeting domesticated friendly ones that enjoy my company and attention.

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10 Comments

Jimmy

1

That guy really needs to get laid.....

Adam

2

A true extremist. I agree with freedom of software somewhat, but this guy goes too far with it.

Andrew B

3

I think RS is hurting Linux somewhat. Too over the top, a computer communist. Stick to eating your foot skin buddy.

RS

4

Disclaimer... Richard Stallman (RS) is not me...

MLC

5

I agree with him, mostly. If all the same programs were available, or had alternatives that were open source, it would technically be better to use them.

Not having entirely open source software on an Android phone doesn't really screw things up, and you are tied to service with a SIM card. While this could certainly be eased up a bit and become more flexible, as of yet it doesn't seem to cause too many issues.

Also, people are fine with hacking iPhones, so having an Android phone is just one step further away from having a closed phone.

But yeah, if the open source programs were better, which they all inevitably will be if they are given enough attention, then why not use them?

Thank goodness I'm a game designer. Plot and story are at least a couple things you can't just re-engineer, so I'll keep making money. XD But seriously, you can sell open source applications. Especially with something like a phone, it'll take people some time and patience to find a way to install it from source rather than just buying it.

MMlosh

6

Hmm.. he hasn't heard about OpenMoko FreeRunner. I guess.
There was no big company behind the development -> the device is created from already invented chips.
It has trouble reaching good FPS in fullscreen and is quite outdated.

But it exists and I enjoy it.
And I guess I really can't be bugged when I tell PMU to cut power for the GSM circuitry. And I can download the PCB file and check it.

MMlosh

7

hadn't heard...

Stewart Grey

8

I think even if you don't follow a completely pure version of free software, we need people like Stallman and the FSF to be beacons for it.

Obviously, if more people made the leap to free software (such as Trisquel on desktop pcs) it would improve leaps and bounds.

Its also worth mentioning that free software is, on the whole, gratis as well.

Graziano

9

We are working on a fully free software os based on Android called Replicant: http://replicant.us

It is endorsed by the FSF so if you would like to help, please join our mailing list and come to say hi on our irc channel!

Thank you!

maze

10

MMlosh: the GSM firmware on the freerunner and Neo1973 is non-free. It's not that Openmoko wants it this way, it has to do with US regulations which would cause trouble to them if they did otherwise.

So, Stallman is probably correct when he says that "no smartphone is made that can be run without proprietary software." At least to my best knowledge.

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