iiNet confuses with first NBN pricing

Second ISP announces prices for NBN

iiNet has become the second Internet service provider after iPrimus to announce pricing for its stage one National Broadband Network (NBN) trial sites in Tasmania.

However, pricing and package details remain unclear, as the ISP has released two slightly different grids.

The packages announced in a press release issued by iiNet are identical to those the ISP already offers at its own fibre-to-the-home (FTTH) trial sites in University Hills and Point Cook in Victoria. These packages range from $49.95 for 25 megabits per second (Mbps) speeds and a 10GB monthly data quota, to $159.95 per month for full 100Mbps speeds with 180GB of quota. These packages also offered tiered upload speeds, ranging from two to eight megabits per second similarly to iPrimus.

However, a pricing grid available on iiNet's NBN information site at time of writing has significantly reduced upload speeds of between one and five megabits per second. While the download limits, downstream speeds and monthly prices are all identical, the difference in upload speeds potentially confuses users and could deter those who need higher upstream speeds.

iiNet is also yet to announce any business plans under the NBN, or if it will offer symmetrical downstream/upstream speeds to facilitate high-bandwidth applications such as multi-party video conferencing and large-file uploads.

Computerworld Australia contacted iiNet for comment, but did not receive a reply at time of writing.

iiNet has adopted the NBN Co's "retail service provider" (RSP) term to differ it from more traditional Internet service providers, but its first NBN packages don't differ dramatically from those ADSL2+ subscribers would be used to. Early adopters who sign up to the packages before 31st September 2010 won't have to pay the $180 setup fee, which was initially expected to cost $300. Early adopters will also receive iiNet's BoB ADSL2+ modem, wireless router and VoIP phone for free.

Residents at the trial sites - Midway Point, Smithton and Scottsdale - will get a choice of NBN packages from iPrimus, iiNet and Internode, the last of which is yet to reveal pricing.

Update: iiNet has since rectified its website. Its first stage NBN packages will provide tiered upstream speeds of between two and eight megabits per second.

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14 Comments

Raymond

1

Newman! defend your firm! $159+ per month from the cheapies with limited coverage,great idea this NBN thing!

Ah silence, that pricing a bit much for all the Centrelink invaders.

My case rests!

D Newman

2

Sorry Raymond I was out of office today, we were talking about this once I got back, and we think its odd to, when I dig something up I will gladly post.....The rumour and I must stress it is that, that the 3 companies involved have had some sort of initial cap imposed on them.
So yeah we here are confused to

RS

3

Oh look Raymond has come out of hiding at last...Hi, high-flyer, LOL...

But why not reply to my many comments about you and your blatant fairytale lies, Ray?

Oh that's right, it all got too hard didn't it, so you whimpered off, taill between legs, refusing to correspond further with me. Just as I predicted eh?

Fair enough... back under Thodey's desk with you again insignificant worm!

D Newman

4

Right ho, got pricing sorted, the price $159 is in fact pretty much a european standard for 100mps, did a quick check to confirm and its cheaper or same as 3 major players in the UK and did struggled a bit because of lanuage, but appears roughly the same as Germany and france, the other countries I have not a pray of translating websites.....
The only big difference, and its a difference I myself am disappointed in is the retaining of the long out dated usage limits, Europe doesnt have the usage caps in most cases....

Also upload limits are a bit of a strange point that i,m trying to dig into, rumour of some sort of early stages cap are about, and im trying to confirm or deny them....

But pricing model is correct and pretty much standard, but with competition should see some play in those figures.

And Raymond type slower so you make more sense, your gushing rambles are hard to make heads or tails of sometimes, if you ask a reasonable question I will try and dig up info......
I will be intrigued to see pricing once the WA spur going to Geralton comes online, to see if a national pricing model is ineffect or regional to begin with.....

A important point that applies for all companies and people who get into NBN, is that when you pay $59 or there abouts for 20mps, you dam well get 20mps and thats the biggest point for entry level fibre over ADSL2

Raymond

5

Newman, my admiration for your effort ! not neccessary, however, I make the point yet again, this beast of fibre this government is playing with is completely unaffordable for a country the geographic size and population spread. The countries you are Googling! would all fit into WA, with a population of 200million!

In any case, NBN as we think we know it will not go ahead,so hopefully the problem will go away in Sept, more accurately Oct!

When next in Perth, I will buy you a coffee, now I know who and where you are.

Brian Wardlaw

6

IINET are way way out of sinc with these prices, and the download quota on the first plan is crap. At 25Mbps speed you would be able to download 10 gigs in a few hours, leaving the rest of the month to wonder why you even bothered signing up for the NBM. The whole thing about the NBN was to bring SUPER FAST internet at 100Mbps to householders. Not 25Mbps that is already offered in alot of places.

D Newman

7

Brian I agree with you, but your looking at first generation pricing that always stiffs the eager.
But one point the 25 adsl2 offered in lots of places in fact very rarely produces what our paying for, most people get between 8 to 12 mbps.
With fibre you get what its says on the box, as a non ramping stable connection, if you look at any download manager or even windows unreliable download speed indicators you will see either a lat line of constant same speed download, with ADSL2 it as a large + to - swing or ramping.

Raymond I also agree this country can not afford all fibre for the now gratification crowd, but if you switch to 20 year long view or country infrastuture view hen the figures make sens, its a long term project and costing, you appear to think someone is signing a 30 billion cheq now and handing it over.

For starters various areas come online at different times, with revenue streams starting roughly now, a busisness person would spot that...As for pricing even at 159 remember you dont have to pay line rental or most phone calls if go VOIP as I have, saved myself $90 right there a month, who ever you go with, most offer VOIP.

Raymond Labour will not even have one seat in WA, but both sides are acting like complete muppets, the October election is far from having a clear leader at present, and I wouldnt put money down on either yet, because they still got alot of screw ups to go yet, both of them.

I dont want either of them, one side is going to go overboard scrapping everything and fearing tech while using fear as a tool instead of policies, and the other side have some sort of weird social agenda, with a desire to engage in social engineering while not being able to run their standard operations.

I fact sod the lot of you WA should become a seperate country and you all can go whistle for ore revenue....:-) And then we can have our gas back at lower rates for WA households and we can have gold plated fibre to every home.

D Newman

8

Brief sorry for the typing of the above, used laptop and for some reason only on this site, it sometimes doesnt pick up keystrokes, even if you hit the key repeatedly and call it names.

petey

9

pretty sad that telstra offers better deals.

RS

10

Hi Petey,

Please show us your direct comparisons, which lead you to this statement.

I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing them.

philth

11

by the time nbn comes to wa (2097) the nbn plan pricing would have hit considerably half of the cost with double the data @ 100/8 MB/s. but by then there will be no torrents, so what is the use of having it anyway...ooooooooh my fb page loads hell fast now! pffft

D Newman

12

@Philth
First stage of NBN (WA) already about to start, from Perth to Geralton, granted there is a secondary reason why thats being done now, but whatever if people from Perth to Geralton get access who flipping cares.

SO while I agree it sucks that WA is always last normaly, and yet accounts for so much of Australia,s GDP, its not totaly the case this time.

Stevo

13

As Someone who lives in one of the trial areas (Armidale)
I will probably be one of the first to sign up.
But if the current priceing plans are the same as Tasmania
with the low download limits, I will keep my 7 mb connection
on adsl 2.

I am currently with TPG and I can only hope they will come on board early, simply because they are the cheapest out there
well for adsl2 in this area anyway.

Si

14

As previously mentioned, it's not the NBN that charges these prices. it's the RSP's, Right now they have little competition, so they can get away with charging what they like. as the NBN develops and more RSP's get into the game competition will drive the prices down.
And this is a project expected to take 8 years. I'm sure there will be more RSP's by then.

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