iiNet to drop iView from Freezone? -- update

ISP's CTO says the cost to run the catch up TV service is having a serious impact on its business

Despite the ABC’s intention to dramatically expand its catch up TV service, iView, one ISP partner, iiNet, has flagged it may have to cease carrying the service in its Freezone due to the strain it’s putting on its network.

Speaking to Computerworld Australia iiNet, chief technology officer, Greg Bader, said that while it saw iView as a stimulus to the fledgling IPTV industry, the costs associated with the service left its future in doubt.

“iView overall, it is a real plus [and] customers love it,” he said. “However, the ABC need to address the cost issue for ISPs unmetering it… there is a real cost to carry this and that needs to be addressed.”

iiNet offers the iView service as part of its unmetered content, meaning customers don't have any downloaded data counting towards their quota or download limit.

Bader said that the ABC would also need to invest in its own ICT networks if it was to successfully see the iView service expanded to more ISPs and devices such as the iPad, which ABC Mark Scott flagged yesterday.

“At the moment their content distribution network is inadequate and inefficient [and] we are not sure that unmterering is sustainable unless they address this,” he said.

While there was a question mark over the future of iView on the iiNet work, Bader confirmed that the ISP would still carry the ABC and other free to air TV stations on its forthcoming Fetch TV set top box.

“These will be delivered in a much more efficient manner [and] multicast where we can,” he said.

ABC iView launched on July 23, 2008 with around 6 to 8 hours of content per week, and one year later recorded 221,000 visitors, and 764 000 visits for the month of July 2009.

In March this year the service had grown to offering over 220 programs from ABC1, ABC2 and ABC3 and recorded some 471,000 visitors, and 1.671 million visits.

According to the ABC’s acting head of multiplatform, Arul Baskaran, the ABC’s partnerships with ISPs and hardware vendors such as Sony are not commercial arrangements, rather distribution agreements to extend reach and availability.

“We will always control the publishing and presentation of the content,” he said. “So all the devices we partner with use a simple feed – much like RSS within the web world. We are open to working with all partners, but must carefully weigh our finite resources and enter into partnerships that deliver significant new value to our audience.”

An ABC spokesperson told Computerworld said that that it was not a requiremnt of the nine ISPs which carried iView that they offer it as an unmetered service.

"There is no clause in our agreements suggesting ISPs must unmeter iView, rather it is a decision by ISPs that is happily facilitated by ABC," the spokesperson said. "We rely on, and continue to develop strong relationships with our ISP partners who support us. We also understand that they are keen to provide great content for their customers.

"We appreciate the effect the growth of ABC iView has on our ISPs who offer unmetered access and we continue to work with them closely to ensure we can make ABC iView as accessible as possible."

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Max T

Wed 21/04/2010 - 20:32

Of COURSE it should be unmetered, ALL FTA TV online should be unmetered.

AND, ISPs should be FORCED to make it available.

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Claude

Wed 21/04/2010 - 20:57

Max T, you say ISP's should be forced to make it available. What country do you think you live in?

Unmetering has a cost; it is up to ISP's to figure out how to minimise that cost, absorb the cost, or offset that cost against increased customer satisfaction.

If they can't, then the unmetered content will be dropped or the ISP will go broke.

And why should iView get special "FORCED" treatment? What about the other player in the IPTV industry? Do they get it too? What about YouTube? Force that to be unmetered?

Heck, Lets force everything to be unmetered and watch all the ISP's go broke, or our monthly fees go through the roof, or our internet slow down to a crawl.

3

Jason

Wed 21/04/2010 - 21:04

@Max T - No way should ISP's be forced to to make it available. Just like they shouldn't be forced to filter our Internet. ISP's like any other business should be able to pick and choose what they make available to customers, based on that customers could make an informed decision on who to go with. Free market, we don't need government forcing policy over everything in our lives...

You would be somewhat annoyed if you signed up to iiNET for 2 years (with a reason signing up was unmetered iVIEW) and then they turned it off...

4

David

Wed 21/04/2010 - 23:05

There is a valid point here, the arguement isnt that it should be carried or not, but its success is dragging the overall service down with such demand.
So you have 2 realistic options, invest more to enable carrying this free service with confidence, or drop it.

So the question is, your running a busisness and you are faced with this issue, what are you going to do?

Of course there is a third option, which is to publicly complain about it, and hope ABC realises that to expanded itself will cost alot more than chucking a yearly "fee" to iinet.

Not every story is black and white, some are used to prod things in certain directions, or raise awareness of problems that are not problems at all.

5

Adrian

Thu 22/04/2010 - 00:23

If iView is metered I will not even look at the news on it. If iView is removed from the freezone I will not be happy with iiNet.

6

petey

Thu 22/04/2010 - 02:52

iView is a fantastic example of how tv stations should adapt with technology. It would be a shame to see iiNet drop support for it due to its success. However if they do decide to ditch it, they risk losing many of their users to Internode who also offer it unmetered.

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glenn sweeney

Thu 22/04/2010 - 11:46

Iinets been great.. but its starting to turn... they took xbox live off the freezone when they released movies... they havent remained competitive with aapt .. and when they remove iview ill be reviewing my options. Just a reminder to iine tthat as you get bigger you have to accept some customers will subsidise others.. dont pretend you can make a profit of every user every month or youll simply loose to aapt. optus, vodafone.. hell even telstra gives some lucky people great deals.

Whos getting a great deal at iinet now? Sure its reliable.. but i dont think any user really feels like they are getting a great deal. A fair service at a fair price... isnt as good as an unlimited dl service at a "fair price" ie tpg / aapt

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Jason W

Fri 23/04/2010 - 18:05

This is typical. I joined iinet for the xbl and iview and now i hear that xbox live could be going as well.. Now im locked for 24 months.. sigh

9

Jeremy

Wed 28/04/2010 - 15:39

Jason,

iiNet is happy for you to disconnect any service - even under contract. The only penalty you face is having to pay for the free modem you got with them.

So if you are unhappy, it is easy to change provider.

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oxg

Mon 03/05/2010 - 10:50

IINET decision to remove Ivew from Freezone and meter it has nothing to do with network strain, its called removing competitors to its new IPTV service, Fetch TV hence njow making people pay for something they got at no extra cost with their service before.
Sad IINET, your taking away from happyness from using your service, I was looking forward to having SBS content unmetered too.

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Tony

Sat 31/07/2010 - 10:22

Just signed up to iiNet to get unmetered access to iView. I will be dissapointed if this is dropped. Hope iiNet and ABC can work something out.
iiNet should also factor the imminent customer churn into the cost benifit equation.

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