Greens to block net filter in election lead up
- 01 March, 2010 10:10
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The Greens will look to block the Federal Government's controversial internet filter in the lead up to the election.
Speaking at the Kickstart forum on the Gold Coast, WA Senator Scott Ludlam praised the Labor government for its bold stance on ICT issues such as the National Broadband Network (NBN), but questioned the viability of the filter in light of widespread condemnation from the industry and public alike.
"We're looking at ways of knocking it on the head for the time being so the government can go back and have a think about it," he told journalists during a panel debate.
"I think they probably need to think again on that and work more collaboratively with industry and child protection organisations.Otherwise, I would like to see this kind of boldness in climate change and public transport. We seem to be in an age of risk averse government and this is one area where they have taken some risks."
Ludlam admitted the internet has it's 'dark corners' but said the internet filter required more consideration and consultation. He also criticised the opposition for its lack of leadership on ICT issues.
"In the run up to the election the opposition is playing a tactically 'block everything game'. We are seeing a destructive move by opposition. To block everything and ask what did you achieve is quite a cynical tactic," he said.
"I am going predict right now that the net filter will probably not be on the table and the broadband network is going to struggle."
Opinions varied wildly during the debate, which included the executive director of the competitive carriers coalition (CCC), David Formam, the Australian Information Industry Association (AIIA) chief, Ian Birks and John Linton, the cheif executive officer of ISP, Exetel.
Linton is a loud and furious critic of the NBN.
"I think it's a load of crap," he declared. "Does anyone want a $43 billion surprise? It's had absolutely no thought behind it whatsoever..."
Formam said the primary reason the CCC applauds the network is for its potential to create a level playing field within the industry.
"The government made a public policy call," he said. "That's a matter for them…the important issue for us was that the structure of the new investment remains a wholesale investment."
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Comments
John Simmons
This proposed Net filter is an appalling threat to civil liberties and everyone knows it except Stephen Conroy and the Christian right who think they know best for everyone. The Government should instead focus on education and providing effective filtering tools for individuals.
chris
I am annoyed that the opposition has done nothing to try and stop this ridiculous filter. What choice do we have at this election? Either the center right party, or... the other center right party.
Frank Hauptle
The Government is trying to sell it to us under the guise of blocking child pornography.. but those guys don't share stuff like over the web as it's all logged and can be traced and used as evidence already. They share usb keys and use encrypted transfees etc and the filtering would stop NONE of that traffic at all.
Stephen Conroy seems desperate to get his name in the history books any way he can and he doesn't seem to care if it's as a hero or a tyrant.
You would be very hard pressed to find any IT professional group that approves of the filtering idea. In fact most have been vocal about their disapproval of it.
1. It doesn't do (and simply cannot do) what they are selling it to do. (block child porn)
2. It does do stuff that we don't want it to do. (like mistakenly block legit sites and slow the internet down.)
3. Anyone who wants to will be able to get around it very quickly just by googling about it.
Ailie
Looks like my partner and I will be voting Greens next election...
DC
The NBN is not a "bold initiative" its a vast waste of money. Another labour government plunging us into debt at a rate that can only be marvelled at. Sure lots of people want it. but it would occur naturally anyway. I agree the non metropolitan areas need vastly superior coverage. Break telstra into wholesale/retail and then let competitive forces take the lead. As it is Telstra frustrates all competition and the rural areas lose.
DC
Jay
This is a pretty simple tactic.
If you vote green your vote goes to labor through a preference scheme.
This is a way to get all the anti-internet-filter voters to still vote labor.
Stupidity of the Australia public is why this government will be able to pull this off.
Phil
> I am annoyed that the opposition has done nothing to try and stop this ridiculous filter. What choice do we have at this election? Either the center right party, or... the other center right party.
Maybe you haven't read, but in 2001 and again in 2007, the Howard government announced that it would create its own internet filter.
Perhaps if enough people vote for the Greens or another minority we can send Labor and the Coalition a clear message.
Colin
Why vote for these people, sign up to the Australian Sex Party to give the religious right a real kick in the pants.
Michael
Ailie You do realise a vote for the greens is actually a vote for labour...
david
Quote from Jay's comment above - "If you vote green your vote goes to labor through a preference scheme. This is a way to get all the anti-internet-filter voters to still vote labor. Stupidity of the Australia public is why this government will be able to pull this off."
Jay - sorry mate but you are the one showing stupidity. Most Green voters are intelligent enough to determine their own preferences, rather than just copying out advice off a Labour 'how to vote' card. You don't seem to understand how to vote, so I suggest you educate yourself.
Liz
@ Michael and Jay - that's not correct. Greens don't always preference Labor. They split it last time, half Lib half Lab, so essentially no-one gets them. That only applies when you vote above the line, and let the politician select where your preferences go. Make an effort and vote below the line.
I'm glad you think you're soooooo much smarter than the rest of the country.
If you don't agree with voting, or voting for either party, get off your rear end and onto the street. Make your voice heard. Don't pith about on forums preaching to the choir.
Liz
Correction - they split the pref's in my seat.
Peter
I will vote for any party that holds a strictly no mandatory internet filtering policy.
Harquebus
Scott Ludlum does not intend to oppose the legislation, only put forward amendments. Knocking it on the head for the time being is so that it does not become an election issue which, those in favor of a filter do not want. Including the Green's.
Ben
Voting for the greens below the line will ensure that Labor doesn't benefit from any preference deals with your vote.
tim
seriously guys.....while we may understand preferences....not all people do. some people who are not wise to the ploys of political parties but are trying to get behind the cause might just tick Greens 1st above the line - good intentions but realistically a wasted vote, or worse....a vote for the opposite of thier intentions. Can we put aside name calling and differences for the greater good here? Everyone needs to know that while yes, voteing for Greens will help the cause, but only if you vote in the correct manner.
my 2 cents
Robert
Voting below the line guarantees Labour does not receive your preference.
I intend to put them last underneath Family First and Fred Nile's Christian Democrats.
My number one and two will be The Australian Sex Party -As their policy's directly target the filter and censorship in general- and the Greens - Scott Ludlam will not allow the filter to go through, without making it opt-in.
Kevin10, never again!
@ 10 David: If you Greens voters are so intelligent, then how come you can't even correctly spell the name of the "Labor" party? (www.alp.org.au)
Jay
@ 10 and 11:
You guys seriously think that most voters go below the line?
Maybe people that actually care, but you will find most votes, especially the sterotypical apathetic green voters, will just tick the happy fluffy go lucky greenie environment "freedom" box with no other thoughts.
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