Net filter to block only restricted content
- 26 March, 2009 22:19
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Federal Communications Minister Stephen Conroy
The national Internet content filter will block only restricted content, according to federal communications minister Stephen Conroy.
The revelations, while perhaps spoken off-the-cuff on a live ABC broadcast, are the latest in vacillating claims by the government regarding what content will be banned under the filters.
"It goes against the tenets of the Labor Party to block political [material]," Conroy said on the ABC's Q&A program.
"Restricted content is what I'm talking about, then parents can choose the level of filtering they want," he said in response to audience claims that the filters could be used to block additional material.
Only days ago, the minister refused to rule out banning content not classified by the government regulator, but simultaneously attempted to quash suspicion that the filters could be used to censor political content.
“The concept of creep is a legitimate political debate,” Conroy said. “If people say it might go further, that is a legitimate point to raise. Am I going to agree with what [Senator] Steve Fielding might want banned? Absolutely not.”
Fellow panelist shadow minister for climate change Greg Hunt agreed with Conroy that the leaked blacklists would advertise Web sites that promote child porn, rape and abuse.
"They are real crimes that we don't want to promote," Hunt said.
Conroy said earlier the publication of Web blacklists, the latest which he admitted to be close to that held by the regulator, will not impede plans to trial the Internet content filter.
“Does the [leaked blacklist] mean we are going to stop blocking access to the sites? No. People can continue to put up the lists if they are proud to do that,” Conroy said. "If people think [leaking the list] is a victory for free speech, to make available that sort of information, they have a perverse sense of free speech."
Conroy admitted the government blacklist had included "one mistaken" Web site from the 1300 banned sites.
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Comments
Anonymous
Policy? What's that?
With the way that Senator Conroy makes different (often false and misleading) claims every time he opens his mouth, how is anyone supposed to know what is actually being proposed?
Anonymous
Flux
At the moment, the proposal changes whenever another aspect of the debacle comes to light - if Senator Conroy ever gets his way and the legislation goes to the House, how many amendments will be needed for stuffups that come to light while it's under discussion?
Matt
Restricted content?
So if Sen. Conroy is only interested in blocking restricted content, why is 70% of the block list legal content that could be purchased in any adult shop?
Anonymous
I'm confused.
Mr Conroy is so incoherent on this policy its amazing. Why did he spend so much time defending the blacklisting of the dentists website if in fact that wasn't the real blacklist?
Why does he keep saying the criteria is set out by ACMA which on their website defines 'prohibited' content as:
Under the Act, the following categories of online content are prohibited:
* Any online content that is classified RC or X 18+* by the Classification Board
* Content which is classified R 18+ and not subject to a restricted access system that prevents access by children.
* Content which is classified MA 15+
How about we get some sort of clarification preferably in writing - other then the nervous ramblings of a minister that couldn't even answer softball questions well.
Anonymous
Why can't Conroy base his filter on a brand new list, with clearly defined rules (illegal activity only) and why can't he also talk about judicial oversight and proper checks and balances?
The reason is that to go in that direction would expose his real agenda - to pander to the Christian (sex is dirty) view of the world and their agenda to save our souls by preventing us from viewing smut.
Darrenpauli
OFLC hacked!!
Hi everyone. The classification board Web site was hacked. I don't know how long it was there for, but they acted quick to remove it.
Grabbed a screenshot for everyone :)
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/297082/oflc_web_site_hacked
Cheers
Darren
Anonymous
Idiot Conroy
The economy is going down the toilet and people are losing their jobs but we have an imbecile for a communications minister that is putting his effort into blocking websites.
This hypocrite moron is a joke all over the world!
Never vote for Labour!
Anonymous
The drones are droning...
Yaaawwwnnn.... Looks like the whirlpool blog drones are out again, who let them off the chain this time...?
Anonymous
How would we know?!
"It goes against the tenants of the Labor Party to block political [material]," Conroy said on the ABC's Q&A program. (I presume he meant "tenets")
So, if the ACMA/Classification board's process of banning URL's is secret and has no oversight, how would we really know that they're not blocking political content? Should we just take his word for it?
Thanks to Wikileaks we know that the current blacklist already contains innocuous links, and would be considered as "overblocking". And this is with only a relatively small list of URL's managed by humans.
We also know from the governments own reports from previous internal trials of filtering software that there is a small percentage that WILL be overblocked.
So with software automatically filtering the whole of the Internet, even a small percentage WILL result in thousands of overblocked pages.
The whole thing is ridiculous and should be ditched ASAP. Wanna make a difference for the kiddies Conroy? Give your budgeted money for this stupid idea to the AFP to go hunt down the net-nasties.
Anonymous
What I'm curious about is that with Xenophon having spoken out against the filtering now as well, the Government doesn't have the numbers in the Senate to get any legeslation through, yes?
So why is the government still wasting my tax dollars pushing policy which the public doesn't want and the government can't implement anyway?
Is it possible for members of the public to initiate a vote of no confidence?
Ghostofchris
Thanks for the free sites
Anonymous
Right sure..... Scope creep anyone?
"Net filter to block only restricted content"
right...sure we believe that! ... Scope creep that the senator is famous for makes that hard to believe!
Kane
Labour will never get my vote again..... Democracy my butt!
Government spends Money Making List Of Worst Of Worst Internet Sites. List Gets Leak As Of Course It Would.
%40 Increase in Traffic to Sites on the list over night. The Government and any proposed filter has and is going to make this worst.
Our tax payer dollars at work anit it grand :(
How can we call ourselves a Democratic nation?? This is a complete affront to democracy!
UN Bill Of Rights:
Article
UN Bill Of Rights:
Article 19.
* Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Anonymous
Article 30.
* Nothing in
Article 30.
* Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
Anonymous
Political power grab
To update George Bernard Shaw:
"Censorship ends in logical completeness when nobody is allowed to (view) any (sites) except the (sites) that nobody (views)."
gfrend
His lips are moving
We all know how to tell when a politician is lying.
So Conjob says it is against the "tenants" of the ALP to seek to suppress opposing political positions? Gee, who woulda thought it.
And does anybody think little Kevvie would pass up a juicy opportunity like this to ban alternate public voices? And in the meantime he'll try to reap votes from the well meaning but ignorant who are naive enough to think that The Filter will actually do what Conjob claims.
Robby
Conjob should move to Defence
With all the cloak and dagger secrecy over what websites are blocked and how people find out, I think it's time Conjob moves to a different portfolio - I hear Defence may need a minister soon.
LOL
one word BULLSH1T
Anonymous
I hope others realise that Refused Classification material is a euphemism for censorship of all types. The police in Queensland called a cartoon of Bart and Lisa engaging in sexual activity - a drawing- was Child Pornography.
Then we get the Police in Victoria saying photography in public places in the Bushfire zones was "INAPPROPRIATE" and will be Stopped. Photography under assault by State and Federal governments because some people are "offended" by other people's freedom of expression and movement.
Refused Classification material includes:
-X Rated pornography (widely available to EVERYONE who lives in a Western Democracy OUTSIDE Australia, such as European countries, of France, Germany, and all the rest including the USA and many developing nations)
- Adult rated video games (R Rated or X Rated) are Banned Outright.
- All works of Fiction will be banned from the net
This is a small taste of what this filter means. yes, all of the above conditions, currently APPLY TO US WHEN WE WALK OUTSIDE in our Own Country!
We live in the worst freedom oriented Western Democracy in the world, Europe and the USA are laughing at us, that is 500 million white people at least who have freedoms far exceeding our own. And Why? Because the bubble that has been created in this country has warped people into believing they are free when they are not.
Anonymous
I hope others realise that Refused Classification material is a euphemism for censorship of all types. The police in Queensland called a cartoon of Bart and Lisa engaging in sexual activity - a drawing- was Child Pornography.
Then we get the Police in Victoria saying photography in public places in the Bushfire zones was "INAPPROPRIATE" and will be Stopped. Photography under assault by State and Federal governments because some people are "offended" by other people's freedom of expression and movement.
Refused Classification material includes:
-X Rated pornography (widely available to EVERYONE who lives in a Western Democracy OUTSIDE Australia, such as European countries, of France, Germany, and all the rest including the USA and many developing nations)
- Adult rated video games (R Rated or X Rated) are Banned Outright.
- All works of Fiction will be banned from the net
This is a small taste of what this filter means. yes, all of the above conditions, currently APPLY TO US WHEN WE WALK OUTSIDE in our Own Country!
We live in the worst freedom oriented Western Democracy in the world, Europe and the USA are laughing at us, that is 500 million white people at least who have freedoms far exceeding our own. And Why? Because the bubble that has been created in this country has warped people into believing they are free when they are not.
Anonymous
pshttt
leave me to my warez ffs, i dont pay for the internet to watch what you want me to. I like warez that's my choice you bunch of control freaks
tuffguy
What a Conjob
The first point here is that Conjob will not be around for ever (despite what he thinks in his wet dreams) so who knows what his successor will choose to blacklist.
The second point here is his massive hypocrisy. I read about the perfect example just today - a Bill Henson fan site was blacklisted but has now been given the green light. So according to Conjob child porn is to be blacklisted, as long as it is not Bill Henson's child porn.
For those who do not know Henson is a photographer known for taking photos of naked children in the name of "art" and last year an art gallery displaying his "art" was raided and shut down by police. Of course all his paedophile friends rallied and the case was thrown out of court.
Anonymous
re conroy
yes change his job to defence & send him to afganestan in the front line....
name
Hi,
gfrend
So let's get back to the
So now let's get back to the topic:
Yes, of course Conroy's Catastrophe will "only block restricted content".
And Corporal Conroy and his minions will secretly decide what is "inappropriate content" (his words) and what we will be prevented from seeing and learning about things he doesn't want us to know.
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